Comment, c'est dans cette cave que ... by Honoré Daumier

Comment, c'est dans cette cave que ... c. 19th century

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Curator: Oh, my first impression is almost claustrophobic. There's this tight framing and then that...cage-like structure surrounding a sculpture that one can barely see. Editor: Indeed. What we have here is a lithograph by Honoré Daumier from around the mid-19th century, entitled "Comment, c'est dans cette cave que…" Or, roughly translated, "What, are the sculptures in this cellar…". Daumier was a master of using the print medium to expose and critique the bourgeois values of his time. Curator: You can definitely sense that critical eye in the composition, and his process using lithography for distribution emphasizes his social commentary. Note the seemingly uninterested, critical, and slightly ridiculous spectators peering into the enclosure as though it contains animals, not art. What does that say about the perceived value and accessibility of art during the Salon of 1857? Editor: Absolutely, there's a very direct critique of the salon culture at play, positioning art as something akin to a spectacle. Looking closely, you can almost discern that Daumier deliberately sketches the faces to highlight certain class distinctions; top hats versus the unadorned man, suggesting the various forms of cultural capital and participation. Curator: I find myself wondering about the lithographic stones he might have used. Were they locally sourced? How did this impact the creation, reproduction, and consumption of the print, reflecting a dialogue between the artist, the artisan, and the marketplace? Editor: Those questions definitely bring material implications to the fore, revealing systems of labor, production, and social identity encoded within what might otherwise be consumed as mere "entertainment". Also, consider the placement of the sculptures "within a cave" and then the direct annotation. There is clear elitism portrayed that serves as an indictment on artistic pretension, access, and understanding. Curator: And it's quite humorous to note that someone claims not to enter the cavern, fearing rats...almost like an analogy for society itself, as if venturing into the world of high art might entail certain vermin or class associations one doesn't wish to face. Editor: Exactly. And beyond being funny, Daumier encourages us to confront those social truths...and consider whose voices have historically been privileged in artistic discourses. Curator: Overall, considering this work from the material level through social issues, its accessible yet satirical style serves its purpose. Editor: An effective invitation to engage critically with social and political themes around art through visual means.

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